Wheel Poll

"AthomSfere" (AthomSfere) 04/20/2014 at 19:35 • Filed to: wheels, rims, tires, tyres, opinion

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Because someone showed off their new wheels: A Few questions on opinions.

Namely, what would look best on my car?

I think these are too red, but at 16 lbs...

They are also a little pricey.

I really like these Enkei, but they are heavy: 22.8 lbs

These seem good all around, a little heavier but not bad, a little pricy but not horrid...

... Sigh, not that wheels are a priority. I just am not crazy about what is on there now.

Brian Silvestro > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:36

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I like the last one, seems pretty clean.

CRider > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:37

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Rice

Rice

Not bad!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:38

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Grey ones

AthomSfere > Brian Silvestro 04/20/2014 at 19:38

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That was my thought was well. I want to work with the red accents of the car if I ever do any visual mods.

AthomSfere > CRider 04/20/2014 at 19:40

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Hey, when you drive a performance oriented Honda everything is made of rice for your car!

AthomSfere > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 04/20/2014 at 19:40

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So far that seems the unanimous choice!

jkm7680 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:42

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Grey, I've seen the Enkeis in person on a Civic. They didn't look very nice.

Sn210 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:43

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grey Oz's!

There are some nice oem honda/acura wheels that would look good too.

AthomSfere > Sn210 04/20/2014 at 19:45

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Yep, but are they light enough. I really want something 18" (Current size) and 16-18 lbs and decent looking with red accents / highlights some where (Subtle red).

YSI-what can brown do for you > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:52

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Do you know the largest size wheel that will fit in your car? Also what bolt pattern? Finally budget?

CRider > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 19:55

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I know! But if you're driving a performance-oriented Honda that's not a S2000 or NSX you gotta be careful.

AthomSfere > YSI-what can brown do for you 04/20/2014 at 19:56

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OEM sizes were 17 and 18". Previous owner slightly lowered (Not sure how much) so I don't think I could safely go more than 18" without redoing the suspension.

Bolt pattern: 5-114

AthomSfere > CRider 04/20/2014 at 19:59

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Agreed, but if you do it well enough and make it look good it doesn't really matter if its a little ricey. The hard part is making it look good! Especially on a "ricers" car. More than anything else, no short cuts. You might be able to pull of the spoiler but it better be painted, and done exactly right or it would look 1000 times worse than doing a temp primered spoiler on a Mustang.

CRider > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:04

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Painted or not, a spoiler on a fwd car is silly. You don't need down force on that thing, the drag will only slow you down and make your fuel economy worse. A Mustang can look like crap but still need help putting down power (although very few need them).

YSI-what can brown do for you > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:08

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A quick search yields that about 8.5 to 9 inches are about as wide as you can go. If I were you, I would look into 17s for two reasons. 1) they are cheaper, rims and tires are both cheaper in 17s. MPSS are 800 dollars in 17s but 1200 in 18s!! 2) They are better performing as well. Not only are they lighter, but they make turn in better, gas mileage better, even acceleration and braking!!! Just something to consider!

Anyway, on to da rims! Assuming you want rims for around the 1k mark. The following are good choices in 17s and 18s!

Rotas, ALL OF THEM! They are all cheap, and fairly reliable(do a bit of research before deciding for yourself!) Plus they look really nice.

Enkei, RPF1s. They are light and strong, but not very pretty. You can get 17s for around 1k

Those are my few recommendations. If you want more I can lay it on you!

AthomSfere > CRider 04/20/2014 at 20:11

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On the street, your damn right!

But if tracking is really the purpose there is a physics reason for a spoiler on a FWD car. Cornering and braking, acceleration is worse off with a real spoiler though (Not just a park bench thing that looks like a spoiler but has no down force).

AthomSfere > YSI-what can brown do for you 04/20/2014 at 20:15

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Lay 'em on me brudda~!

I am all for lighter. What profile tire would I have to move to for 17s? Currently on 40, 215 40 r18

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:22

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Out of those 3, the last one for sure. The first one is something I'd expect to see on some gutted POS EG hatch, the second one just looks awful, the third one would work well on a more modern car.

YSI-what can brown do for you > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:24

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If it is a 17x8 wheel, then a 225/45 or 235/40 would be perfect. It would be a bit thicker than the standard 215/40 on right now, but that means more grip and also better ride!

Gram Lights 57DR around 1300 for 17x9, only come in 17x9!! 18s are a different story though

A lot of Enkei's racing wheels come in the perfect size for your car. Plus they are very light. Click on the one you want and see if they have them in the right color/size

http://www.enkei.com/racing.shtml

XXR 527. . . kind of.

These are very cheap, 400 to 500 dollars. They are cheaper than Rotas. The problem is, they aren't exactly proven. Quality is meh, and I don't know how strong they are. However, good value if you are on a tight budget and they look nice.

Sn210 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:26

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no I don't think any of them are that light, maybe the Mugen Si ones, but those are probably pricey. I know there's a bunch of OEM wheel threads on 8thcivic , the coolest ones I remember were Acura RDX 18's that actually looked awesome. Of course, there are the RSX Type S wheels too, and of course, my favorite, the TL Type S wheels too!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:30

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Grey ones. Never go full rice, not even once.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 20:34

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The first one is the most expensive per wheel, and also the lightest by about 4 lbs each.

AthomSfere > YSI-what can brown do for you 04/20/2014 at 20:36

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Yea, I think I would avoid gold at pretty much all costs on a silver car.

AthomSfere > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 04/20/2014 at 20:37

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LOL, but c'mon its soooo cool!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:39

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The tach is facing the wrong way, ohhh. Just NO.

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:40

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it also looks really bad in bright red. Silver/black would be much better.

YSI-what can brown do for you > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:40

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I don't think they look that bad! As long as it is a lighter silver

KayPee > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:41

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Definitely not the middle one.

AthomSfere > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 04/20/2014 at 20:44

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Its so that the Gallardo you are gaining on can see you hit VTEC yo!

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 20:44

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Agreed, but I am not crazy about the solid black wheels on this car I have now. I want to break it up a little.

AthomSfere > YSI-what can brown do for you 04/20/2014 at 20:45

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I'd call that more bronze, and it looks good!

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:46

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Hahaha

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 20:51

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I think #3 is what you want then, unless you can find #1 in a different color.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 21:08

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Black, blue, gold, orange...

What I would really like to find is something like these but from a brand I know (Or one that people recommend) that are light, strong etc.

Like those last ones...

Ah, aesthetics of cars is hard!

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:15

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you're getting colder

I've seen a lot of people run XXR's but they are cheap chinese crap, so I wouldn't suggest them.

cluelessk > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:24

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First ones but not in red.

I'm sure there are a lot of better options out there.

Enkei and XXR make a lot of tasteful wheels that aren't too expensive.

Try to stay with a neutral colour on wheels. Red accents in my opinion clutter it.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 21:25

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Yea, I am talking visual approach only. Brand I know Enkei, Rota, BBS, OZ and a few others...

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:26

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Rota's are shit, don't go there

Eneki, BBS and OZ have all made wheels for major auto manufacturers, so those are always safe bets.

Hanzr > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:27

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Why not the brilliant RPF1? Cheap and solid.

AthomSfere > Hanzr 04/20/2014 at 21:31

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Not bad, but not for me. Maybe in SBC...

AthomSfere > cluelessk 04/20/2014 at 21:32

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But I so love accents on some wheels. These aren't the best ones I have seen, just the best today in a quick search on Tirerack.com

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 21:33

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I have heard Rotas both ways....

Know their forging process? Or poor materials? Or QA issues?

cluelessk > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:34

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What size do you want? 17" or 18". I recommend 17"

I'll take a look and link some wheels that I like.

AthomSfere > cluelessk 04/20/2014 at 21:37

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Currently on 18s. Eventually I would like an excuse to start autocrossing (Been saying that for over a decade!) so handling, light matters more than size. Then looks.

cluelessk > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:50

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The red wheels in the other colors would look better on your car. When it comes to wheels, Less is usually more. Gold, Grey, Black, Brushed or Polished wheels would look good on your car and colour.

Also anything 20lbs or less is pretty light already.

Check out this site. They're a good budget wheel.

http://www.xxrwheels.com/wheels.shtml

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:51

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They aren't forged, they are cast knock off's.

AthomSfere > cluelessk 04/20/2014 at 21:51

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Not sure about XXR, but I like these Konigs

cluelessk > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:54

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In the end you'll get what you like. But painted accents are kinda dated. In my opinion it "cheapens" the look of a wheel.

Conan > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:54

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Closer to body color seems like the choice.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 21:55

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gravity cast? Or just plain old fashioned "here's a mold"?

Input on Konig?

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 21:57

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I don't know 100% but I would be lead to believe its the old fashioned "heres a mold".

I've never owned konig but I know they have been around for years. I'm sure they are up there with OZ and such.

AthomSfere > Conan 04/20/2014 at 21:57

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Yea, I agree of those three at the very least.

Bronze looks good, certain blacks with the red accesnts too, and some matte gun metals.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 21:58

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Dang affordable though... I wonder what the catch is...

Conan > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 22:08

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Those final Konigs seem pretty nice too, with the accent as well as the black. There are days when I'd like to get something different on my car but I think I'm going for different exhaust first.

AthomSfere > Conan 04/20/2014 at 22:09

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Yes, that is my next step, planning on high flow cat, and then cat back... One day just buy it and knock it out in the garage. Expensive though...

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 22:23

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Theres an old saying, you get what you pay for.

You dont want something that is going to bend/crack/split when you hit a pot hole. It will happen with weak wheels trust me, I've already bent 2 on my BMW and they are OEM BBS wheels!

CRider > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 22:32

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I doubt a Civic set up for street driving, on normal tires, is taking corners fast enough for a wing to matter.

Burrito de EJ25 > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 23:06

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Fuck the haters. I think the first ones look fantastic. Although, the red would look even better with a white car.

AthomSfere > offroadkarter 04/20/2014 at 23:49

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Agreed, but Konig is a good brand (I thought) and sort of confirmed here. It may just be an old design...? They sell a ton, over stocked... who really knows. If it comes time I will give them some serious research.

offroadkarter > AthomSfere 04/20/2014 at 23:53

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as far as I know konig is a good brand

AthomSfere > CRider 04/20/2014 at 23:55

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Agreed, at least hopefully not on the streets. I believe spoilers on average start producing some downforce around 80mph, but mostly negligible until over 100 somewhere. Not really sure where the numbers came from though. I'd interested for facts/ studies but too lazy now.

AthomSfere > Burrito de EJ25 04/20/2014 at 23:56

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***imaging red wheels on car***

I'm just not sure it would look great... Maybe if it was a show car.

Burrito de EJ25 > AthomSfere 04/21/2014 at 00:45

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I think it's hilarious. Car enthusiasts need humor. All the self-seriousness is suffocating.

JACU - I've got bonifides. > CRider 04/21/2014 at 00:48

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So you're saying rear-end lift at speed is a good thing?

CRider > JACU - I've got bonifides. 04/21/2014 at 00:55

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How fucking fast do you think that Civic can go!? 150+?

JACU - I've got bonifides. > CRider 04/21/2014 at 01:01

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So you're saying it would have to be able to go 150+ before it would benefit from a trunk-mounted aerodynamic aid that would reduce rear-end lift?

CRider > JACU - I've got bonifides. 04/21/2014 at 01:11

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To be clear, I don't think a Civic in anything close to stock condition will ever be able to benefit from additional downforce. They tend to understeer around corners, not oversteer, and they don't go fast enough for lift to become a problem. They won't become unstable at speeds they can achieve. If you want to go faster in a Civic, invest in tires, brakes and suspension upgrades, not wings and spoilers unless you like the look.

JACU - I've got bonifides. > CRider 04/21/2014 at 01:25

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If the photo is of a late-model Si, it's electronically speed-limited to 136 mph. With no restriction and light mods it is indeed capable of 150+. Try not to think so much in terms of "downforce" and more in terms of lessening rear aerodynamic lift which most street cars have.

CRider > JACU - I've got bonifides. 04/21/2014 at 01:36

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Even with the limiter removed, how many places can it got to 150? How many race tracks have a straight that long, considering most supercars don't go that fast on most tracks? I stand by what I said, if you want more speed look elsewhere. I know lessening lift is a good thing, but it's not a important problem on the Civic.

JACU - I've got bonifides. > CRider 04/21/2014 at 01:40

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Then what vehicles do benefit from lessening rear lift when not on a race track?

CRider > JACU - I've got bonifides. 04/21/2014 at 01:45

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Nothing that's obeying the speed limit in my country, that's for sure.

MonkeePuzzle > AthomSfere 04/21/2014 at 09:32

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I vote #1, the red will tie nicely with your red H badges, and I loev funky coloured wheels

Camry-Into-Canyon > AthomSfere 04/25/2014 at 12:50

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Buy the last ones (the OZs) and some rally armor mud flaps so you can rock that bitch.

moran11 > AthomSfere 05/09/2014 at 14:56

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http://www.collegehillshonda.com/product/42706-…